A New Rule Balances Wildlife and Off-Road-Vehicle Use on a North Carolina Beach

A New Rule Balances Wildlife and Off-Road-Vehicle Use on a North Carolina Beach

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Anna Sanders

Type: Author | From: Audubon Magazine

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ORV Crowd Has NO ONE to Blame But Themselves

Let's see.... For all of the years since the Consent Decree has been in place, the tourism $$$ are at all time highs for Hatteras Island-DESPITE record breaking gas prices and the worst recession since the Great Depression. (Stop lying about these numbers business ownersi the taxes and revenues. Don't support your lies). And the wildlife is recovering. Tourists are here in ABUNDANCE. Maybe they just do visit your shops beacuase of your crude and mean ways, OR maybe they are going on the beach because YOU have convinced people they should not come here because you keep telling lies and advertising the 'beaches are closed' when that is not true. IF you are suffering from loss of business-maybe people don't want to be part of bullies, foul mouthed mean crowds.
It is just like when they moved the Lighthouse-everyone here was fuming, screaming that this will take away their livelihood because the structure surely would crumble during the move. Remember that? And what happened? The VERY same people running their mouths made a killing on tourist $ about the move: T shirt designs, photos, stomped coins from the tracks... Greedy bunch of people. And you think our nation wants to let the likes of you be in charge of our natural areas?????
Thank heavens Obama administration just released his opposition to this Bill in the Senate!

orv propoganda

yes, there are people here now, the weekly renters, but this spring was a different story. what is usually a busy season for the tackle shops and motels wasn't. the spring fishing crowd drives our early season economy and they weren't here. (we own a tourist oriented business also and our business was way off this spring too).

secondly, no one is asking for unrestricted driving anywhere on the beaches here, just reasonable access to the most popular and safest beaches we have. i am not part of the fishing crowd but i feel for them the most. and, if there is to be no orv's on the beach, why is the park service allowed to drive on them? if it's going to be no orv, then it should be none.

and,you're not even addressing the beaches closed to pedestrians. that's a whole 'nother story.

ORV propaganda

The propaganda is that the island is under economic collapse due to park management. I am on hatteras island now and the place is awash with tourists. The ORV proponents have done everything in their power to try and make the economy worse because they believe that will improve their chances of making CHNS the first ORV National Seashore. The resource restrictions are diddly compared to the road going out and people relying on a 2 hour ferry ride with a 5 hour wait. Of course they don't want to tell you about that.
The truth is if the ORVes could drive anywhere whenever they wanted on the park beach they would care less about the local economy, the parks tapping program , pedestrian access, turtle nests or any thing else for that matter.

oh boy, crotalus is here

oh boy, crotalus is here

Just imagine your favorite outdoor place..

Just imagine your favorite outdoor place..maybe it is a mountain, a stream, a river, a lake, a beach, or a trail. Maybe its a place where your mom or dad introduced you to when your were a kid. A place that you have brought your own children to enjoy, or plan on it. A place preserved by our great National Park System. Even as a young kid I realized the importance of setting aside special recreational places for the enjoyment of all. I was comforted knowing that this place is always going to be like this. I thought, “Isn't it great that no one is going to build a condo complex or a go kart track here destroying the landscape or cutting off access.” Back then I was proud that there were organizations like the Serria club and the Audobon out there defending our lands keeping anything “bad” in check; an advocate for the environment. How shocking now to realize that these very groups are the ones exploiting the environment for monetary gain, not some greedy developer! Your Federal Parks are now being closed little by little. Using "Ecological misinformation" to flat-out propaganda and lies. The NPS, Sierra Club, and the Audobon Society are systematically shutting down access to your public Federal Parks all over the USA. Week by week they are using your donations to fatten their bank accounts, land grab, hire lawyers, and gain political power. The closing of a Federal Park should be a crime along with the fabrication of photos and so called scientific data they use to do it! --- Our Parks are getting smaller and smaller due to privatized interests and ecological lobbying scams. Its so sad that these once noble organizations have lost their way. Now they are being run by people that are praying on the care and concern of the American people to make easy money. These folks have found out, that it is a lot easier to sit in your pajamas and type up lies on your computer which generates MILLIONS in donations than to actually go out and make a difference by solving the tough problems, "heck trying to stop someone from killing a whale is dangerous, you might get shot at!! Why bother?” Sarcasm aside...don't think for a moment that this is limited to a few obscure areas. They are coming for your favorite place next, they have to keep the revenue stream going.

point of order....

Can you enumerate these alleged lies please? And are they any different/worse from your side's claims - lies - like the one that there are 700 acre buffers around nests, when we all know those buffers apply to mobile chicks and not nests?

Cro, are you saying the 700

Cro, are you saying the 700 acre buffer is floating? So, the buffer is not tied to a nest or anything, it just moves around with mobile chicks? How do they determine the center of buffer area, and therefore the buffer extents. Does this change hourly, daily, weekly?

Common sense please...

Of course it floats with the chicks. What sense would it make to have a 1,000-meter buffer on the nest and the brood moves 1,001 meters away from where the nest was?
You'll have to ask the NPS about their methodology in dealing with their movements.

'How much coin must fill your hands'

You should check to see how much tax money is collected from Hatteras Island and Ocracoke island for Dare and Hyde county. Dare county is a donor county and helps support some of the poorer counties in the state. Please also check the state taxes collected, some of it may be coming your way.

House bill a sham!

Whoa wait a minute there Ginny and her posse. This is Cape Hatteras National Seashore. It is one of the 10 National Seashores that is run, administered and staffed  by the National Park Service. It is not a recreational area ( yes I'm aware there is an antiquated version of the seashore that includes recreation in the title) or an ORV parkway  beach.

Just so we don't get confused here is the contentious park of the Enabling legislation for CHNS.

"Except for certain portions of the area, deemed to be especially adaptable for recreational uses, particularly swimming, boating, sailing, fishing, and other recreational activities of similar nature, which shall be developed for such uses as needed, the said area shall be permanently reserved as a primitive wilderness and no development of the project or plan for the convenience of visitors shall be undertaken which would be incompatible with the preservation of the unique flora and fauna or the physiographic conditions now prevailing in this area . . .

(Aug. 17, 1937, ch. 687, Sec. 4, 50 Stat. 670; June 29, 1940, ch. 459, Sec. 1, 54 Stat. 702; Mar. 6, 1946, ch. 50, 60 Stat. 32.)"

Just because you find it inconvenient to access the beach on foot the EL doesn't give you and your friends the right to drive vehicles roughshod over the rest of us or the flora and fauna. Simple fact If the beach is open to ORV use that beach will not be "wild and pristine". At any time there could be a car every parked every 20 feet. Most all of the pristine and wild beaches were designated as ORV routes for part of the year in the Park's plan. Allowing any ORV use on these beaches was a compromise. You all got way more beach driving than was fair or appropriate for the "unique flora and fauna or the physiographic conditions".

If that house bill goes through and the Interim plan is put into place it will be on all the beaches open ORV use for 8 months a year.

You ORVers are a deceitful  narcissistic  bunch.

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